Calls for fresh Dunblane inquiry

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Calls for fresh Dunblane inquiry

MSPs are to consider calls for a public inquiry into the Dunblane
shootings.
Three separate petitions relating to the massacre are to be discussed
at the Scottish Parliament. It comes just over a week after the 10th
anniversary of the incident on 13 March, 1996, which saw 16 children
and a teacher shot dead. Two of the petitions are calling for a new
public inquiry into the shootings. One asks whether an original inquiry
failed to consider crucial evidence.

Witness statements

Holyrood's public petitions committee will consider a submission by
Sandra Uttley, the former partner of Mick North, whose daughter Sophie
was one of Hamilton's young victims. Miss Uttley, who has now separated
from Dr North and lives in Cowbar, near Whitby, is calling on MSPs to
urge the Scottish Executive to hold a new inquiry into the shootings at
Dunblane Primary School. A separate petition put forward by William
Burns, from South Queensferry on the outskirts of Edinburgh, is also
demanding a fresh public inquiry.

He wants this to look at whether Hamilton led a "charmed life" and
whether or not the original probe by Lord Cullen failed to consider
crucial evidence. Another petition on the agenda for Wednesday's
meeting has been submitted by Doreen Hagger, from Aberdeen. She wants
the parliament to urge ministers to instruct Her Majesty's Inspectorate
of Constabulary to investigate Central Scotland Police's dealings with
Hamilton from 1975 up to 1996 and to examine the 1,655 witness
statements taken as part of the investigation into the shooting.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4831760.stm

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http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/petitions/open/index.htm
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Petition PE948 Additional information (pdf size 60 KB posted 15.3.2006)


petition by William Burns calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge
the Scottish Executive to establish a new public inquiry into the
shootings at Dunblane Primary School on 13 March 1996 with a view to
re-investigating whether Thomas Hamilton led a "charmed life", who is
associates were and to determine whether the original public inquiry
failed to consider crucial available evidence.

Petitioner: William Burns
Number of signatures: 1

Date lodged: 14 March 2006

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Petition PE940 Additional information (pdf size 61 KB posted 27.2.2006)


Petition by Sandra Uttley calling on the Scottish parliament to urge
the Scottish Executive to establish a new public inquiry into the
shootings at Dunblane Primary School on 13 March 1996.

Petitioner: Sandra Uttley
Number of signatures: 1

Date lodged: 23 February 2006

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Petition PE933 Additional information (pdf size 67 KB posted 9.2.2006)

Petition by Doreen Hagger calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge
the Scottish Executive to instruct Her Majesty's Inspectorate of
Constabulary to investigate Central Scotland Police's dealings with
Thomas Hamilton from 1975 to 1996 and to examine the 1,655 witness
statements taken during the investigation into the shootings at
Dunblane Primary School on 13 March 1996.

Petitioner: Doreen Hagger
Number of signatures: 1

Date lodged: 09 February 2006

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[Andrew McGee]

Post by i***@internationalmensorganisation.cjb.net
Calls for fresh Dunblane inquiry
MSPs are to consider calls for a public inquiry into the Dunblane
shootings.
Three separate petitions relating to the massacre are to be discussed
at the Scottish Parliament. It comes just over a week after the 10th
anniversary of the incident on 13 March, 1996, which saw 16 children
and a teacher shot dead. Two of the petitions are calling for a new
public inquiry into the shootings. One asks whether an original inquiry
failed to consider crucial evidence.
Witness statements
Holyrood's public petitions committee will consider a submission by
Sandra Uttley, the former partner of Mick North, whose daughter Sophie
was one of Hamilton's young victims. Miss Uttley, who has now separated
from Dr North and lives in Cowbar, near Whitby, is calling on MSPs to
urge the Scottish Executive to hold a new inquiry into the shootings at
Dunblane Primary School. A separate petition put forward by William
Burns, from South Queensferry on the outskirts of Edinburgh, is also
demanding a fresh public inquiry.
He wants this to look at whether Hamilton led a "charmed life" and
whether or not the original probe by Lord Cullen failed to consider
crucial evidence. Another petition on the agenda for Wednesday's
meeting has been submitted by Doreen Hagger, from Aberdeen. She wants
the parliament to urge ministers to instruct Her Majesty's Inspectorate
of Constabulary to investigate Central Scotland Police's dealings with
Hamilton from 1975 up to 1996 and to examine the 1,655 witness
statements taken as part of the investigation into the shooting.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/4831760.stm
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http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/business/petitions/open/index.htm
====================
Petition PE948 Additional information (pdf size 60 KB posted 15.3.2006)
petition by William Burns calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge
the Scottish Executive to establish a new public inquiry into the
shootings at Dunblane Primary School on 13 March 1996 with a view to
re-investigating whether Thomas Hamilton led a "charmed life", who is
associates were and to determine whether the original public inquiry
failed to consider crucial available evidence.
Petitioner: William Burns
Number of signatures: 1
Date lodged: 14 March 2006
============================
Petition PE940 Additional information (pdf size 61 KB posted 27.2.2006)
Petition by Sandra Uttley calling on the Scottish parliament to urge
the Scottish Executive to establish a new public inquiry into the
shootings at Dunblane Primary School on 13 March 1996.
Petitioner: Sandra Uttley
Number of signatures: 1
Date lodged: 23 February 2006
======================
Petition PE933 Additional information (pdf size 67 KB posted 9.2.2006)
Petition by Doreen Hagger calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge
the Scottish Executive to instruct Her Majesty's Inspectorate of
Constabulary to investigate Central Scotland Police's dealings with
Thomas Hamilton from 1975 to 1996 and to examine the 1,655 witness
statements taken during the investigation into the shootings at
Dunblane Primary School on 13 March 1996.
Petitioner: Doreen Hagger
Number of signatures: 1
Date lodged: 09 February 2006
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via
International Mens Organisation
http://internationalmensorganisation.cjb.net
Fathers Fighting Injustice
http://fathersfightinginjustice.cjb.net

please, please, let us waste no more taxpayers' money on public enquiries.

All thoe who died at Dunblane will without doubt remain dead.

NOTHING will be achieved, but a lot of time, effort and money will be wasted

All survivors should be told very firmly to get on with their lives and stop
obsessing about the subject

[Jethro_uk]

Post by Andrew McGee
please, please, let us waste no more taxpayers' money on public enquiries.
All thoe who died at Dunblane will without doubt remain dead.
NOTHING will be achieved, but a lot of time, effort and money will be wasted
All survivors should be told very firmly to get on with their lives and
stop obsessing about the subject

Living in Brum, we hear a lot about gun crime. I often hear these chavesque
(mainly but not exclusively) wimmin on the radio saying "the guverrmunt
shood do sumfink bout iht".

(There is an increasingly sinister trend for calls on anything to come from
women ... "mothers against xxxx" sort of thing)

FFS they have banned nearly all guns, what more do they want ????

But then how many *legally* held firearms (excluding shotguns) were ever a
serious threat to public well-being ?

AFAIAC the govenrment should say "we banned handguns, we can do no more, I
refer my honourable colleague to Arkell v. Pressdram"

[Harry The Horse]

Post by Jethro_uk
FFS they have banned nearly all guns, what more do they want ????

They want the remaining guns to be banned. They want anything that looks
like a gun but isn't, to be banned. They want magazines about guns to be
banned (Guns & Ammo, Gun Mart, etc) - apparently they 'fuel' the 'gun
culture' - they want books about guns to be banned. After all, the squeak,
'why does anyone *need* a book about the history of the Colt Single Action
Army revolver'.

But paradoxically, they want the police armed. They think that will make
them 'safer' - tell that to Stephen Waldorf, almost killed by a police
execution squad, John Shorthouse, the 5 year old killed by a police officer
negligently handling his service revolver, Cherie Groce, Harry Stanley and
Jean Charles de Menezes, victims at the very least of gross negligence
committed by armed police officers.

[tim (in sweden)]

Post by Jethro_uk

Post by Andrew McGee
please, please, let us waste no more taxpayers' money on public enquiries.
All thoe who died at Dunblane will without doubt remain dead.
NOTHING will be achieved, but a lot of time, effort and money will be wasted
All survivors should be told very firmly to get on with their lives and
stop obsessing about the subject

Living in Brum, we hear a lot about gun crime. I often hear these
chavesque (mainly but not exclusively) wimmin on the radio saying "the
guverrmunt shood do sumfink bout iht".
(There is an increasingly sinister trend for calls on anything to come
from women ... "mothers against xxxx" sort of thing)
FFS they have banned nearly all guns, what more do they want ????
But then how many *legally* held firearms (excluding shotguns) were ever a
serious threat to public well-being ?

One. That one was deemed to be one too many.

tim

[Steve Robinson]

Post by tim (in sweden)

Post by Jethro_uk

Post by Andrew McGee
please, please, let us waste no more taxpayers' money on public enquiries.
All thoe who died at Dunblane will without doubt remain dead.
NOTHING will be achieved, but a lot of time, effort and money will be wasted
All survivors should be told very firmly to get on with their lives and
stop obsessing about the subject

Living in Brum, we hear a lot about gun crime. I often hear these
chavesque (mainly but not exclusively) wimmin on the radio saying "the
guverrmunt shood do sumfink bout iht".
(There is an increasingly sinister trend for calls on anything to come
from women ... "mothers against xxxx" sort of thing)
FFS they have banned nearly all guns, what more do they want ????
But then how many *legally* held firearms (excluding shotguns) were ever
a serious threat to public well-being ?

One. That one was deemed to be one too many.
tim

If the plod had done their jobs correctly then Dunblane would never have
happened , the irony of the whole issue was on of the main instigators of
the snow drop appeals family was prosecuted for holding illegal fire arms

[Ian Stirling]

Post by i***@internationalmensorganisation.cjb.net
Calls for fresh Dunblane inquiry
MSPs are to consider calls for a public inquiry into the Dunblane
shootings.

Which will of course not reverse the silly knee-jerk ban.

[Stuart]

Post by Ian Stirling

Post by i***@internationalmensorganisation.cjb.net
Calls for fresh Dunblane inquiry
MSPs are to consider calls for a public inquiry into the Dunblane
shootings.

Which will of course not reverse the silly knee-jerk ban.

Which has created a situation whereby some of the competitors in the
Commonwealth Games have to travel to mainland Europe to practise and
presumably thats where they keep their guns....of course,meantime,gun
crime in the U.K. has been wiped out hasn't it .

Stuart

[Ian Stirling]

Post by Stuart

Post by Ian Stirling

Post by i***@internationalmensorganisation.cjb.net
Calls for fresh Dunblane inquiry
MSPs are to consider calls for a public inquiry into the Dunblane
shootings.

Which will of course not reverse the silly knee-jerk ban.

Which has created a situation whereby some of the competitors in the
Commonwealth Games have to travel to mainland Europe to practise and
presumably thats where they keep their guns....of course,meantime,gun

Dangerous bastards those athletes.
I can't count the number of times they snap, and go on tragic killing
sprees.
Javelins sticking in people whos only crime was to stand by a curved
line, lifting up harmless grannies, and the death toll from psychotic
archers simply can't be counted.

[me]

Post by Ian Stirling
Javelins sticking in people whos only crime was to stand by a curved
line, lifting up harmless grannies, and the death toll from psychotic
archers simply can't be counted.

My brother managed to skewer his games master with a javelin through the
foot once. He warned the guy not to stand where he was, was told to stop
mucking about & throw the thing - result was a trip to hospital for the gaes
master

[AlanG]

Post by me

Post by Ian Stirling
Javelins sticking in people whos only crime was to stand by a curved
line, lifting up harmless grannies, and the death toll from psychotic
archers simply can't be counted.

My brother managed to skewer his games master with a javelin through the
foot once. He warned the guy not to stand where he was, was told to stop
mucking about & throw the thing - result was a trip to hospital for the gaes
master

ISTR Holly in Red Dwarf saying an IQ of 6000 was only the same as that
of 6000 games teachers and nothing to brag about. BICBW
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